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99 green bottles sitting on the wall, 99 green bottles sitting on the wall, If one green bottle should accidentally fall, there's 98 green bottles sitting on the wall.
What may have seemed to Facebook More about Facebook execs like a run-of-the-mill revision to the company's Terms of Service (TOS) agreement grew into controversy over the weekend, and on Monday CEO Mark Zuckerberg had to scramble to reassure users that the content that they post -- photos, videos and text -- belongs to and is controlled by them, not the social networking Web site.
The brouhaha in the blogosphere appears to have begun after a post on The Consumerist by Chris Walters, who excoriated the social networking site for changes it made to its TOS on Feb. 4.
The blog post asserts that the company's new TOS claims the right to do whatever it wants with content posted on the site, even after a subscriber's profile is deleted.
Later, Facebook denied claiming those rights. "We are not claiming and have never claimed ownership of material that users upload. The new Terms were clarified to be more consistent with the behavior of the site," said Barry Schnitt, a Facebook spokesperson. Lost in Translation
The former TOS stipulated that when a user uploaded content to the site, he or she therefore authorized and directed Facebook to make as many copies as the company "deem(s) necessary in order to facilitate the posting and storage of the User Content on the site." In addition, by posting content to any part of Facebook, users automatically grant "an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing."
The user-posted content section of the TOS ended by assuring users that uploaded content could be removed at their discretion and any license would expire, save for the retention of archived copies.
However, the old TOS stipulated that once an account was closed, any rights Facebook could previously claim to original content uploaded by subscribers would expire. Now, that caveat has been removed.
Facebook said that the changes in its TOS have been misinterpreted.
"One of the most important goals of the new terms [of service] was to be more open to users by being more clear about how their data was handled. We certainly did not -- and did not intend -- to create any new right or interest for Facebook in users' data by issuing the new terms. None of the news or blog reports at the time we announced them on Feb. 4 suggested any confusion or misunderstanding," Schnitt told TechNewsWorld. When Delete Does Not Mean Delete
When a Facebook subscriber sends a message to another subscriber -- or posts to another user's wall, etc. -- the content might not be removed by Facebook if a subscriber opts to delete the account, according to Schnitt. It can be deleted by the recipient of the message.
"Furthermore, it is important to note that this license is made subject to the user's privacy settings. So any limitations that a user puts on display of the relevant content (e.g. to specific friends) are respected by Facebook. Also, the license only allows us to use the information 'in connection with the Facebook service or the promotion thereof,'" he pointed out.
Users, Schnitt said, generally expect and understand this behavior, as it has been a common practice for Web services since the advent of webmail.
"For example, if you send a message to a friend on a webmail service, that service will not delete that message from your friend's inbox if you delete your account," he noted.
Users, however, are not necessarily well-versed in a respective Web services TOS and need to be educated about them, said Caroline Dangson, an IDC analyst.
"Of the survey respondents who said they would consider allowing Web sites to collect information about them under certain circumstances, less than half said that a revised terms of service was enough notification. However, these practices are common today, and consumer education is needed," she told TechNewsWorld.
"Facebook must tread carefully in its desire to monetize the incredible amount of user data on its service. Facebook needs to do a better job of notifying users about these important changes, not downplaying them on its blog as 'obvious,'" Dangson explained.
"Otherwise, consumer advocates will create a stir as they did this past weekend. Consumers need and want more choices about their online personal information. At the same time, consumers need to really think about the information they are broadcasting on Facebook and set the appropriate privacy settings," she continued.
Not many Facebook users will likely begin deleting their profiles en masse as a result of the new TOS.
"It didn't happen with Beacon. Similar to the Beacon incident, users are creating groups on Facebook to speak out against the social networking site. Facebook revised its Beacon service as a result of the outcry and quite possibly angry users expect the site to respond similarly in this incidence," she concluded.
HARTFORD, Conn. – A 200-pound domesticated chimpanzee who once starred in TV commercials for Old Navy and Coca-Cola was shot dead by police after a violent rampage that left a friend of its owner badly mauled.
Sandra Herold, who owned the 15-year-old chimp named Travis, wrestled with the animal, stabbed it and hit it with a shovel after it inexplicably attacked her friend Charla Nash, 55.
Nash had gone to Herold's home in Stamford on Monday to help her coax the chimp back into the house after he got out, police said. After the animal lunged at Nash when she got out of her car, Herold ran inside to call 911 and returned armed.
"She retrieved a large butcher knife and stabbed her longtime pet numerous times in an effort to save her friend, who was really being brutally attacked," said Stamford police Capt. Richard Conklin. Herold told police that the knife had no effect, and that she also struck Travis with a shovel.
Nash was in critical condition Tuesday after suffering what Stamford Mayor Dannel Malloy called "life-changing, if not life-threatening," injuries to her face and hands.
Her sister-in-law, Kate Nash, said Tuesday morning that Nash underwent surgery Monday night and came out of it "OK."
Herold and two officers also received minor injuries, police said. Conklin said police don't know what triggered the attack.
"There was no provocation that we know of. One thing that we're looking into is that we understand the chimpanzee has Lyme disease and has been ill from that, so maybe from the medications he was out of sorts. We really don't know," Conklin said.
Colleen McCann, a primatologist at the Bronx Zoo, said Tuesday that chimpanzees are unpredictable and dangerous even after living among humans for years.
"It's deceiving to think that if any animal is ... well-behaved around humans, that means there is no risk involved to humans for potential outbursts of behavior," she said. "They are unpredictable, and in instances like this you cannot control that behavior or prevent it from happening if it is in a private home."
After the initial attack, Travis ran away and started roaming Herold's property until police arrived, setting up security so medics could reach the critically injured woman, Conklin said.
But the chimpanzee returned and went after several of the officers, who retreated into their cars, Conklin said. An officer shot Travis several times after the animal opened the door to his cruiser and started to get in.
"The animal had cornered him," Conklin said Tuesday. "He had no other recourse."
The wounded chimpanzee fled into the house and retreated to his living quarters, where he died.
A woman answering the door at Herold's house Tuesday morning declined to comment.
Conklin told reporters the chimp was acting so agitated earlier that afternoon that Herold gave him the anti-anxiety drug Xanax in some tea. Conklin also suggested the animal may have attacked Nash because she was wearing her hair differently and perhaps wasn't recognized.
The chimpanzee was well-known around Stamford because he rode around in trucks belonging to the towing company operated by his owners.
Police have dealt with him in the past, including an incident in 2003 when he escaped from his owners' vehicle in downtown Stamford for two hours. Officers used cookies, macadamia treats and ice cream in an attempt to lure him, but subdued him only after he became too tired to resist.
At the time of the 2003 incident, police said the Herolds told them the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass. He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control, police said.
When he was younger, Travis appeared on TV commercials for Old Navy and Coca-Cola, made an appearance on the "Maury Povich Show" and took part in a television pilot, according to a 2003 story in The Advocate newspaper of Stamford.
"He's been raised almost like a child by this family," Conklin said Monday. "He rides in a car every day, he opens doors, he's a very unique animal in that aspect. We have no indication of what provoked this behavior at all."
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100 green bottles sitting on the wall,
If one green bottle should accidentally fall,
there's 99 green bottles sitting on the wall.
99 green bottles sitting on the wall,
If one green bottle should accidentally fall,
there's 98 green bottles sitting on the wall.
Edited at 2009-02-17 08:38 pm (UTC)
And then there's Max, who wouldn't even move when wearing his sweater!
The brouhaha in the blogosphere appears to have begun after a post on The Consumerist by Chris Walters, who excoriated the social networking site for changes it made to its TOS on Feb. 4.
The blog post asserts that the company's new TOS claims the right to do whatever it wants with content posted on the site, even after a subscriber's profile is deleted.
Later, Facebook denied claiming those rights. "We are not claiming and have never claimed ownership of material that users upload. The new Terms were clarified to be more consistent with the behavior of the site," said Barry Schnitt, a Facebook spokesperson.
Lost in Translation
The former TOS stipulated that when a user uploaded content to the site, he or she therefore authorized and directed Facebook to make as many copies as the company "deem(s) necessary in order to facilitate the posting and storage of the User Content on the site." In addition, by posting content to any part of Facebook, users automatically grant "an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing."
The user-posted content section of the TOS ended by assuring users that uploaded content could be removed at their discretion and any license would expire, save for the retention of archived copies.
However, the old TOS stipulated that once an account was closed, any rights Facebook could previously claim to original content uploaded by subscribers would expire. Now, that caveat has been removed.
Facebook said that the changes in its TOS have been misinterpreted.
"One of the most important goals of the new terms [of service] was to be more open to users by being more clear about how their data was handled. We certainly did not -- and did not intend -- to create any new right or interest for Facebook in users' data by issuing the new terms. None of the news or blog reports at the time we announced them on Feb. 4 suggested any confusion or misunderstanding," Schnitt told TechNewsWorld.
When Delete Does Not Mean Delete
When a Facebook subscriber sends a message to another subscriber -- or posts to another user's wall, etc. -- the content might not be removed by Facebook if a subscriber opts to delete the account, according to Schnitt. It can be deleted by the recipient of the message.
"Furthermore, it is important to note that this license is made subject to the user's privacy settings. So any limitations that a user puts on display of the relevant content (e.g. to specific friends) are respected by Facebook. Also, the license only allows us to use the information 'in connection with the Facebook service or the promotion thereof,'" he pointed out.
Users, Schnitt said, generally expect and understand this behavior, as it has been a common practice for Web services since the advent of webmail.
Users, however, are not necessarily well-versed in a respective Web services TOS and need to be educated about them, said Caroline Dangson, an IDC analyst.
"Of the survey respondents who said they would consider allowing Web sites to collect information about them under certain circumstances, less than half said that a revised terms of service was enough notification. However, these practices are common today, and consumer education is needed," she told TechNewsWorld.
"Facebook must tread carefully in its desire to monetize the incredible amount of user data on its service. Facebook needs to do a better job of notifying users about these important changes, not downplaying them on its blog as 'obvious,'" Dangson explained.
"Otherwise, consumer advocates will create a stir as they did this past weekend. Consumers need and want more choices about their online personal information. At the same time, consumers need to really think about the information they are broadcasting on Facebook and set the appropriate privacy settings," she continued.
Not many Facebook users will likely begin deleting their profiles en masse as a result of the new TOS.
"It didn't happen with Beacon. Similar to the Beacon incident, users are creating groups on Facebook to speak out against the social networking site. Facebook revised its Beacon service as a result of the outcry and quite possibly angry users expect the site to respond similarly in this incidence," she concluded.
Sandra Herold, who owned the 15-year-old chimp named Travis, wrestled with the animal, stabbed it and hit it with a shovel after it inexplicably attacked her friend Charla Nash, 55.
Nash had gone to Herold's home in Stamford on Monday to help her coax the chimp back into the house after he got out, police said. After the animal lunged at Nash when she got out of her car, Herold ran inside to call 911 and returned armed.
"She retrieved a large butcher knife and stabbed her longtime pet numerous times in an effort to save her friend, who was really being brutally attacked," said Stamford police Capt. Richard Conklin. Herold told police that the knife had no effect, and that she also struck Travis with a shovel.
Nash was in critical condition Tuesday after suffering what Stamford Mayor Dannel Malloy called "life-changing, if not life-threatening," injuries to her face and hands.
Her sister-in-law, Kate Nash, said Tuesday morning that Nash underwent surgery Monday night and came out of it "OK."
Herold and two officers also received minor injuries, police said. Conklin said police don't know what triggered the attack.
"There was no provocation that we know of. One thing that we're looking into is that we understand the chimpanzee has Lyme disease and has been ill from that, so maybe from the medications he was out of sorts. We really don't know," Conklin said.
Colleen McCann, a primatologist at the Bronx Zoo, said Tuesday that chimpanzees are unpredictable and dangerous even after living among humans for years.
"It's deceiving to think that if any animal is ... well-behaved around humans, that means there is no risk involved to humans for potential outbursts of behavior," she said. "They are unpredictable, and in instances like this you cannot control that behavior or prevent it from happening if it is in a private home."
After the initial attack, Travis ran away and started roaming Herold's property until police arrived, setting up security so medics could reach the critically injured woman, Conklin said.
But the chimpanzee returned and went after several of the officers, who retreated into their cars, Conklin said. An officer shot Travis several times after the animal opened the door to his cruiser and started to get in.
"The animal had cornered him," Conklin said Tuesday. "He had no other recourse."
The wounded chimpanzee fled into the house and retreated to his living quarters, where he died.
A woman answering the door at Herold's house Tuesday morning declined to comment.
Conklin told reporters the chimp was acting so agitated earlier that afternoon that Herold gave him the anti-anxiety drug Xanax in some tea. Conklin also suggested the animal may have attacked Nash because she was wearing her hair differently and perhaps wasn't recognized.
The chimpanzee was well-known around Stamford because he rode around in trucks belonging to the towing company operated by his owners.
Police have dealt with him in the past, including an incident in 2003 when he escaped from his owners' vehicle in downtown Stamford for two hours. Officers used cookies, macadamia treats and ice cream in an attempt to lure him, but subdued him only after he became too tired to resist.
At the time of the 2003 incident, police said the Herolds told them the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass. He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control, police said.
When he was younger, Travis appeared on TV commercials for Old Navy and Coca-Cola, made an appearance on the "Maury Povich Show" and took part in a television pilot, according to a 2003 story in The Advocate newspaper of Stamford.
"He's been raised almost like a child by this family," Conklin said Monday. "He rides in a car every day, he opens doors, he's a very unique animal in that aspect. We have no indication of what provoked this behavior at all."